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welcome to the all podcast we're the Academy of logic and light I'm Megan I'm cat I'm Julie we are an ethical Community Education platform that provides a safe space for people to practice their spirituality without indoctrination awesome working okay so um hi I'm Julia at the Academy of logic and light we're here with cat and Ashley and we are here talking today about inner child um I'm just gonna let Ashley take over can you tell us who you are you yeah yeah so my name is Ashley wolfenden I am an inner child advocate I'm also a breath work facilitator um hypnotherapist I do like design work um kind of intuitive design uh and like help people that are entrepreneurs or wanting to be entrepreneurs like I feel like people have a lot of ideas but they don't know how to like where to put it how to organize it how to like put it into a course or Retreat or whatever they're they're wanting to create um so I help them kind of like let the let their Creations come and land um yeah I love inner child work is like one of my number one things that I do it is it is what really helped me like unleash my freedom in my life I was a very anxious like teenager and uh young adult and into my early adult years I just was like crippling with anxiety and I didn't really know what to do with it and I would like get to the point that I would like dissociate out of my body so much and that I didn't even know what that was or like never had I heard that word before and so really just felt like I wasn't in my body at all it was like all my head felt like I was like up here watching everything happen and so I've been going to therapy for like years and years and I was like super self-aware of all this stuff but then I was like okay what do I do with this awareness and I had like Shame about it right I had so much shame that I was carrying for all of my feelings all of it and so I really just like I had found this gorgeous inner child lover and Advocate um her name is Liz Hayes who I started working with and then like became um certified in her method the synup method which is just a healing modality that really connects your inner child and your inner being or your yourself with what you're wanting and your creations and your desires and all of that um and I like when I had first heard about inner child work I was like no thank you like I don't like have any trauma like I'm fine like I definitely had a lot of trauma but you know it was like I don't want to go digging like we don't have to go there and um and so through Liz I like had found out what inner child work now means to me is your inner child isn't just this version of you like this young little version of you it's not just this childlike version of you it's like the human aspect of you the part of you that chose to come to this earth the part of you that holds all the emotions and beliefs and desires and Creations all of that is like within the inner child and then you have like your inner being which is your like the sole aspect of you the whatever aspect of you the part of you that's connected to the universe to God to your Divine team to non-physical whatever like word you like to use there um and so what I learned is like when the two come together and like actually have communication when you talk to your inner child and let your inner child speak as well like both are so important I think when we when we think about inner child work it's like oh I just have to to go like hear her or like what does she need kind of thing but also it's like she wants to hear from you too like there's versions of you that that we hold on to like past versions of oursel that that need this that are looking for something from you from these older versions sort of like reparenting ourselves really it's like how I may describe it but yeah so that's that that's within my work I do a lot of oneon-one work I do group work as well I have some courses and um Retreats coming up as well so that's super exciting oh amazing tell me about the Retreats yeah so the so the Retreats so the first one is going to be down in St George so like Southern Utah and um it's really just going to be about like coming back into our bodies and including like all of all of these parts of us soothing the parts of us that need soed I mean like I'm always someone that says like when women gather like healing happens I think when humans gather healing happens right but but it's so true that like when you I mean we're so good at taking life like super freaking seriously and like forgetting to have fun and like forgetting that like we can like feel good like we're just like robotic some sometimes and so so um to like give yourself a place to land and be held by other people and like you're not just like being held but you feel like you're contributing and like like what you say like even your energy is just like super important to the whole group and that's why I like love Retreats because it's not just about like okay if I'm leading it it's not just about okay like here's I'm gonna like tell you what to do and like I'm leading no it's like a circle it's like your your energy and your frequency like super matter and they like affect the outcomes of the Retreats and like your story might have a ripple effect in somebody else and vice versa right like we have no like we don't know like it's usually the tiny things that we say that we don't even think matter that like like are blowing other people's minds and change everything for them right so this Retreat is it's it's really about like coming into to our bodies and like hearing ourselves oftentimes we can't even like hear our inner child we don't even like know how to do that and so that's something that um during the the uh event in July that I'm doing with you guys is really what I'm like looking forward to as well it's like how can we hear ourselves how can we understand ourselves how can we include our inner child more right like how can we bring her in or him in or them in and hold them and love them and and hear them and let them speak and all like love them and just like fill them up because even like the today version of you right like what do they need and I think that's something that's like so missed it's like we don't always need to go into our past because what's what our beliefs are in the past all has to do with like right now too we're all holding them right now yeah I love what you said about yeah totally um and I love what you said about like what inner child means to you that it's not just like you when you are a child it's like all of these pieces of Being Human that you were starting to like come into maybe as a child because I do like inner child work not that it's just kind of a foreign concept to me I think because I always had that Outlook of like I loved my childhood I don't have any complaints about my childhood I feel like I had a fantastic childhood sure there was trauma my parents divorced and we moved and you know all of the things and I think it's really such a human thing probably particular for females I would imagine more so because we're so adaptable to have the mindset of what was so much worse for other people so therefore my trauma doesn't matter like even though those we minimize those things that happened to us because they're the smaller parts of what happened they're still valid and they're still there and they still play on that Loop until you look at it and say whatever needs to be said about those things and I never put it together until you just said that about that it's it's the whole thing it's not like a separate part of you that was your child or you as a child it's you oh still you still there yeah yes yeah and I think I think even the word trauma like people are like oh like that's such a big word sometimes but all trauma really is is an experience that that gives you or like that you perceive as you are negative or the world is negative in some way and so so how like the inner child like works or my understanding of it is so we're babies we're born babies and we're sensing like we don't have like thoughts going through our head we're just like sensing okay like how far away is our mom like do I feel safe what's this energy feel like like that's all we're we're just sensing how do I feel like and of course we're not having these thoughts but I'm giving you these thoughts just to like you know um but we're just sensing the world and then around ages and it just depends on on the individual but around ages like 6 to9 we sort of have this like etheric layer like shed and like this part in our brains um develop that starts to sort of compare everything to whatever beliefs and things that you have so if you have an experience let's say maybe your your your mom was busy or something and you tried to tell her something and she wasn't paying attention and then you perceive that as like oh well I'm not good enough you then you have this belief in which your brain starts to look everywhere for reasons why that's true and it does this to keep us safe and so it's like it can be really frustrating when we like oh I don't want to hold on to that anymore but when we soften and recognize like everything every belief that you are holding now you've created to keep your safety which is like really freaking brilliant it's actually really smart and so even though now those things are no longer serving you we like we can still look at it and say like hey like that was actually really smart I'm going to let go of like the shame I have for that and and I want something new and I want a different belief and I want something different in my life so I love that you brought that up about about trauma because it's literally it could be any tiny thing of course your mom was probably just doing something you know it wasn't intentionally like oh you were hit in the face or you were like abused like that you know like we that that perception was still like is alive and it could be the tiniest little thing it's just how we are perceiving it makes it so real for us yeah yeah I find that so interesting too because even like with my siblings each one of us has such a different perception of what our childhoods look like and my sister was like well we did this and this and I was like well I only really remember this part and she remembers this but my experience with that was this part so it's just like kind of interesting but also like when we're now adults talking about our childhood we're like oh okay well that was your experience and it's okay but this was my experience and now we're like it's getting a broader picture it was I guess it's interesting yeah yeah and especially because each of you individually have different things that your brain is trying to like find truth in and our brain only looks for things that like we tell it to so like a quick exercise I love for this is like okay if you're looking around the room find all the red things and like okay like how many red things can you find okay now close your eyes how many red things were there how many did you see and then okay how many blue things did you see you weren't you have no idea you weren't looking like you can be like okay here's the red things but I you weren't looking for the blue things so what you tell it to look for like that's what it's going to look for so if you if you have like certain perceptions so of course that's why like siblings like me and my sibling could not be for this like from the same at all and like we and people are always asking that like I don't know like how you guys were raised in the same house and it's just like well yeah because we just have different like we perceive things so differently and then it like built on them yeah it's really like crazy to think about too and I mean I have friends that I have been friends with since I was like one years old and um oneyear old and uh it's interesting to like talk to her even about like stories or things that come up she's like that is not even close to how I remember it um which is just like so funny but like that doesn't make either of our experiences wrong or untrue either it just means that like okay we perceived it differently and there can be more than one truth that exists which is like so frame to even like understand honestly yeah I've been using that one a lot two things can be true in this instance and that's okay and sometimes three things yes multiple things yes I know sometimes sometimes well it's like I think that we're taught that like we we have need to be right I mean we're like literally taught that from school to like oh like wrong is bad like getting things incorrect or makes making mistakes right we have to be right so that like drives this like within us and and when we actually take a step back it's like oh yeah it does it's not about right and wrong it's about like okay like that's your experience and here's mine and both and honoring both of them or many of them yeah I love that it's crazy because I think too we forget that our brains are still pretty work off of like our um like prehuman instincts basically like you were saying that like everything you learn is to protect you and all of that stems from like your environment living outside for a millennia before houses were built so your whole brain is wired for safety and protection above everything else so now that we have safety and protection most of the people in the world um it's looking for danger in places that aren't necessarily dangerous like in our homes and in the one time that you got ignored or somebody snapped at you or you know your friend took her toys and went home those types of things that we otherwise wouldn't perceive as dangerous become danger and then it just plays in that Loop like you were saying that like oh I must not be good enough I must not be smart enough I must not something's wrong with me otherwise this danger like I'm in the wrong place otherwise this danger wouldn't be coming at me right now which is wild that we have that part of our brain that just operates in the background all the time because we're like we have tiny computers we can contact everyone in the world and space and do all these things but our brain is still like yep y yeah like I I call it the reptile brain it's just like literally here to keep you like safe and all the things and and even within that like there's there is like these core things that like every inner child needs and they are very like the they are like they stem from these very like reptile like things right it's safety um it's being seen and heard being accepted right like if you think about um our like ancestors way back if they weren't part of the tribe like you did not survive and so that's a very like actual like like mammal reptile very um what is the word like looking for FAL no animalistic Primal thank you than you I'm like I knew it was that very like Primal Instinct within us um right so so safety being heard and seen accepted loved like all of those are like needs of the inner child that need to be filled and so so if there are any times that you're like perceiving oh I I didn't I'm not receiving this that's like we perceive that as like a negative thing which then creates that those those beliefs that we hold on to um so practice like if I if I notice that these things are coming up or or anytime that you're like getting activated or triggered or we love that word um you know anytime we're feeling that activation within us maybe a discomfort maybe it's like anger or sadness or whatever um I always like to ask myself the question okay like what does this mean about me like okay maybe um like I'll give you the silliest example so my partner I would ask him like to not like put my te strainers in the dishwasher because they would like get bad and I would ask him and ask and he like wouldn't do it and I was like okay like like but I just like kept getting so angry and upset about it I'm like why is this bothering me so bad it's not even a big deal and I'm like okay what am I making this mean about me like what does this mean about me it's like oh if he isn't like here like I don't feel Hur like if he's not doing a thing it's because he's not like hearing me like does he not care is he not hearing me so it's like oh I mean it means that I don't feel hurt and so then I as now adult can go to my inner child and say like hey like you are heard right I think a lot of times that we we feel like we have to have these things from other people and it's beautiful when we can receive them from others right but but we can also like do the reparenting like within ourselves and like give ourselves give our inner child like even if it's just like you're closing your eyes and visualizing your inner child maybe it's writing to them um whatever whatever practice you like to connect to you in your child I think is like beautiful and there's like so many that we can use but to like see her and say like hey like you are her like what do you like why ises this mattering to you like what does this make you feel like and often times like this is going to sound like nutso but often times um like I when I like do this practice all of a sudden like whatever it is it like just like works out and it sounds crazy so like that thing with the te- strainers happened and so I like took it to myself I took it to my child and I'm like hey what's up what is what are you making this mean about you like what are you feeling and I just let her like speak it all and I'm like okay now that you let it all out like what is it that you're wanting well I want to feel heard and I would like my te spiners up to be ruined right so silly well all of a sudden like I didn't so that was like the first time I was like okay I'm not going to say anything I'm G to go have a conversation with myself and with my inner child and then all of a sudden he's he's never put them back in the dishwasher like anything and like I have a million of these types of examples because it sounds crazy but that like shows like the power of your inner child because you can like just by like hearing her it's like she like puts it down and like your real your beliefs and everything create your reality and so if you can like shift it your reality changes and it's like what like I don't know you kind of feel like it really cool magician yeah well it's kind of like qu kind of like Quantum Jumping in certain ways too because like if you're going back and giving yourself what you needed from the beginning then you're doing some sort of like healing work and I've heard like so many crazy stories about people talking about um seeing someone in their Vision when they were something and then like fast forward to the future they like did some work and then they went to visit themselves as a child and they realized like it was them that was that they needed just like interesting so beautiful and like I actually like been thinking about this a lot recently I don't know why but it's so cool because I okay I think about when I am like in meditations or talking the past inner children like also it's really cool too because I think about okay well there's probably future versions of me that are coming to me now and also like healing me like me now so like to to be able to open yourself of like okay what is my future inner child what what wisdom do they have for me now too it's also kind of a cool uh thing to think about yeah absolutely when I do a lot of like channeling or meditating and stuff I talk to my highest self and ideally she's done more work yes fingers crossed yes has more figures out too yes no I yeah any type of like higher self like just like tuning into like your own wisdom which is like so cool it's just like this sort of future version of your own wisdom even though also like times what is time like what is the future nonlinear that's for sure yeah yeah yeah but it's yeah it is really cool that we can sort of like without even like giving our power away like it's all within us like it's all of it is within us and so it's cool because you can access like all these versions of you through our minds and through our feel like sensation like what it's just I don't know so cool mind blowing to me I'm still I do this like every day and it's still like I'm like yes I don't think it will ever not be cool to me it's like I don't know why it just like reminds me of like Matilda so dumb but like I that was my favorite show growing up and I was like oh cool I'm G to be magic like she is but like I didn't know what that me meant and now it's like okay I'm gonna embody my little Mata I love that I mean it actually makes so much sense right because the key of manifestation is embodiment you have to be what it is that you're trying to acquire so if you are trying to manifest peace um it makes sense to have that conversation with your inner child to find out what they need to be at peace and once that's resolved it's manifested like all those things just like you were saying just click into place and then it's just done you know instead of just like I want to get to that point where I am there but yeah like a a desire it's like we plant seeds in like the future like oh that's future thing that's a future thing but when we go and like do this work it all of a sudden it's like you it's not even like an awareness of it it just kind of happens to you as you do the work all of a sudden you you give space for to embody it and it's not I mean obviously there's like work involved but like often times it's like oh whoa like wait whoa that just like really happen like that's actually really cool oh I love that that's so awesome what's like a like if someone's in a thought SP like Spiral I know you kind of just gave a little bit of an example of like listening to yourself pulling yourself out of the complicated situation to have the conversation but is there something that is like a quick exercise that can help stop the thought pattern sometimes you get stuck in that spiral and it's just impossible to get out of what advice you give yeah so I like to give my inner child sort of like a form of like letting it out like okay like you can like I'm going to give you like 5 minutes 15 minutes and like spit it all out whether you're like just speaking it whether you are having like an in internal conversation whether you're writing it whatever it is so um I call this like discharging emotion like it's like releases like the charge behind the emotion and just like letting the inner child get it all out and like often the time the things that we're saying like they're kind of like they're not like truth they're kind of feel gross to us maybe but it's just like the energy that needs to move so what I like to do is sort of like create a container with my hands and just like imagine and some maybe container feels like a gross word so like an energetic bubble and then like your inner child comes into this energetic bubble and then your ener and your inner being comes in and maybe if you hear like other like other people if you feel like like somebody else is there with you can like make your little bubbles smaller and like squeeze them out and then you can get more space and then it's like okay even noticing like within this little bubble it's like whoa exhale kind of takes the edge off a bit and then I just give space for my inner child to talk here so this energetic bubble is like a completely safe space for you like that you don't have to disclose this bubble to anybody like this is just you your inner child and you your inner being your inner being again is like this this Soul aspect of you the aspect of you that's connected to like non-physical Divine God Universe whatever word you like there so within this space like what is it that you that you need like your inner being wants to hear you what is it that you need like maybe you just need to let it all out and just start saying maybe you need to express like what you're hating or disliking right now maybe you need to express what you love what you're wanting your desires and I sort of like to imagine as I'm doing this maybe there's a specific visualization that comes to I'm a super like I love visualizations um and I'm also like love like the feeling of things and So within this bubble I like to sort of imagine like whatever my inner child is saying like go to my inner being and like just let them take everything so that you're not like carrying it all and so whatever it is that you're wanting I just come here and after you let the emotion out and after you feel completed it maybe it's like oh I hate the way this is going right now this is so gross like makes me want to throw up like I can't believe she did that whatever it is like the gossipy things that you can have your in your internal space here and then okay like now that you let that out what do you want now like what do you want to feel right now well I want to feel maybe it's like peace maybe I'm wanting to feel Clarity maybe I'm wanting to feel freedom whatever it is like just asking your inner child like what is it that you're wanting now like since you're here in this time and space what do you want now and often times they tell is like well I don't know or maybe she and I say she for then a child often so excuse that maybe like they um the they as the inner child just want to feel hurt or maybe they're just wanting five minutes to themselves maybe they're wanting a blanket wrapped around them maybe they're wanting a fresh drink maybe they want to go stand out in the sunshine maybe they want to take a really deep breath it doesn't have to be anything crazy it could be very small and these small things can build up or maybe it's a bigger thing like maybe she wants to go shopping or they want to go shopping or or maybe they want to go on a vacation or maybe they are wanting something specific but there's always a piece of something now that you can give yourself so even if it's like oh I want a vacation I want a break what what is that vacation giving to you what is the feeling you can always give the feeling to yourself now which is sort of embodying like we were talking about this manifest manifesting and so whether you're feeling activated or anything like giving a space for your a child to speak and then what is it that you're wanting now like moving into the desire of it instead of staying the the gross of it or what feels gross it's not gross your emotions and everything and your beliefs and your thoughts and your feelings are not gross even if you feel they are gross and it's like okay now what do you want it's like oh I want a deep breath I want an ice cream cone okay and tuning into our like preferences too right A lot of times we sort of abandon our preferences because we think that it's like oh you're selfish or you're bad or you're wrong or whatever and but through our preferences we kind of get into our creation mode so when we're in survival mode right I like to like sort of like down here when we're in survival mode um it's like we can't even hear ourselves it's like it's like everything maybe like feels gross it feels hard sticky and so survival mode and creation mode like they can't happen at the same time and so when we get into our creation it's not like you have to even like make this big like painting or create like that way but it's like tuning into like creating your own life like okay what is it that you're wanting now what is it like even if you feel like you don't have time for yourself you can always give yourself a moment of something whatever it is whether it's a drink or a deep breath or like giving yourself a specific feeling that you're needing or softness or speaking to your own inner child whatever that isti I love that yeah I've been that was like one of my goals for this year I read a book called The Desire map I can't remember the name of the author Rachel something and she kind of talks about like that like think about the different aspects of your life and what feeling you want to have in those places how do you want to feel at work how do you want to feel at home and then you create your goals around that feeling and whatever makes you happy are the things that you need to that's your yes everything else is a no and it's not like temporary happiness like oh I'm going to be happy going to the pool today with a cooler a margarita mix or whatever it is it's like you want to be if health is top of your list and you want to feel healthy and you want to feel strong um that temporary happiness is going to hinder your long-term happiness so you have to like think about those kind of long-term goals and we're it's so counter for people to set goals based off of preferences and feelings and like what you were just saying like how how you want to um um feel or like um God what's the word like in body yeah in body thank you yeah like how you body um that um place in your life and I something else that I like love doing as you're saying this is like it's like making the mundane like magical right it's not about going on these vacations and then feeling free for that and then coming back you're like oh here's my robot again I'm taking everything so seriously it's like okay like I okay I have to do the dishes I'm GNA I'm choosing to do the dishes because I don't want all these dises in my sink and okay how can I make them more fun maybe and it's like even just like okay feeling the feeling the water on your hands or turning on music and dancing or making yourself a fun drink like that's like my I don't know why that's like my my thing that I do I'm like I always have a fun drink like because it makes me so happy whatever it is it feels like a little celebration um so it's like how can you make these things that like your dayto day that you're choosing into right you're choosing to feed yourself it's like how can I make this like more enjoyable like how can I romanticize this like and and oftentimes we do that like through our senses through touching through hearing through smelling through tasting like all of that um and so the more you can like tune into your senses it's like the more like delicious life feels I love that love that yeah that's awesome so um would you say that inner child work is more um the only other reference the only other person that I've talked to about inner child work that does that is like a facilitator does a lot like a lot of work through movement in your experience um would you say that yes or would you say it's equal parts like just sitting in Stillness or is there a lot of convers like verbal conversation that happens with people um or like I guess I'm just curious of the process of like how you work through some of those like things in the Practical world yeah so so I think that it could look different and I think like whether it's like movement or Stillness or not has to do with each inner child's preference um and maybe it's like a mix of both and like there's maybe it's like dominantly one or then the other but I do think that like I mean for me most of like the inner child work has been done through like Stillness or not even necessar Stillness maybe it's like journaling or writing or just like having this inner conversation between between these two aspects of myself um and so like in how I do it like with my CL science is um you know I just kind of tune into their energy and and sort of Channel like their inner being and like speak to them that way as well as like okay what's coming up for you now because sort of as we like talked about whatever's coming up for you now is like the seat of it was probably somewhere in your childhood or the seat of it was somewhere within your inner child of all these like past aspects of you and so we can get to like the feeling through like the whatever is coming up for you now um and so just even like helping talk through that and like like really just giving them space to see it in like a different way to like literally come like from maybe one perspective and then just see it in a whole like to see it from a different angle completely and often times it's like because inner child we're in survival mode and the inner child can't hear themselves oh okay and so so once we let we we let them hear themselves and turn them around and you're like looking and actually connecting with your Divine team or your you know the universe and you can do that in so many ways like go out and in nature and and meditation and through movement and yoga and sematic practices like breath work there's so many ways that you can feel that connection um between like that energetic connection between like non-physical and ourselves or even just like the physical like getting your hands into mother earth like whatever practice that you enjoy that you like whatever like makes you feel connected like that's that's the goal right like that's where where we can hear ourselves and where we can start creating s shifting from that survival mode to creation mode because like a lot lot of us were also raised in survival mode like that's like the only thing that like we've known and if you think about like the generations past like of course like they they just needed to survive so it was like there was no space for children to have emotion and to have all of these things there was no space for them to be heard or seen or anything which then carries to like our generations and future Generations too because we like they haven't like previous generations maybe necessarily haven't learned how to like deal with their own emotions and then you know we pass it on um and so we were just raised in a survival mode and it's like that's what we're used to and oftentimes what we're used to feels safe to our brains to our little reptile brains and and so when we can um find our safety like I I always say like this is from my my in coach Liz she always says um we grow to the comfort of our inner child and that's so true like the inner child once once they're finding comfortability um and safety they're like okay I can take another step okay I can I can look a different way and so sometimes it's just like putting your toe in like okay like how would this feel like is this your preference do you like this or or maybe just like letting yourself have one minute of like trusting yourself and then you go back in two minutes like it's it could be these tiny baby steps that actually create huge momentums within us that like however it is that you like to connect with yourself too like that's when we're connecting that like to our ourselves our bodies like then we can shift those like survival into creation mode I love that thank you that was yeah that's awesome that's amazing and Powerful MH yeah and it's like it's it's so like it's you you could be doing anything like you don't have I feel like some people it's like oh meditation feels like so much or whatever like okay then don't don't do it that way like find a different way like what way do you prefer like maybe it's like okay like I like to just like sit here and breathe or maybe it's like I just like to put my hands under the water and be with myself like that might be crazy but it's like I want to connect to the water to the like going to lay on the grass like there's so many ways that we can shift into into creation mode whether it's like through ART like you're creating something that way like with your your hands or maybe you're building something or it could be anything maybe it's just like choosing do you want like vanilla or chocolate ice cream do you want like ranch chips or or cheddar or like it's it's through our choices and through our preferences like our preferences are there for a reason and when we honor our preference and don't like wrong our preference like they are they're I believe our preferences guide us to like our ultimate purpose and desire of like why we came here like whatever that is for you cool ranch to down for sure see I'm a I'm a cheese girl I love it and I honor you in that I love it love it w that's so beautiful I'm so excited for our July um Circle I think it's going to be so powerful and so connecting I'm just so excited and so excited to see you in person again I know I'm so excited to see you guys both in person and just to like be and connect like I love being in person so much because it's just like the energy is so real and it's like visceral and you could feel it and it's so fun so yeah I'm really excited for the the delive and I'm really just um going to go into like how you can really hear hear yourself in more ways of of connecting with your inner child um as well as like do an embodiment practice of like actually going to your inner child and sort of like a meditation hypnotherapy Vibe with it too love and would you say this is something like even we always say our events are usually all ages but like what if someone's like a teenager and then like this is their first experience with it so like I don't know how interesting is that to like start get tapping into it like early oh yeah it's actually like so cool I love working with young people because it's like they're they don't have all this conditioning in the way and like this like buildup of beliefs and evidence of why these things are true right it's so it's like actually really fun because even even working with children it's like it's everything's so possible and it's like they don't have limits like they're just like oh yeah this is like what I think and so yeah I say any any age like you can always connect to to these versions of yourself right we call them I call them inner child but but it's really just like any like it could be the yesterday version of you it could be the today version an hour ago like whatever that's still your inner child so yeah any age love that love that so freaking fun I love this like conversation so much thank you yeah thank you um yeah where like can people find you like do you have a website or social media yeah so um my website is Wolf wellness it's 20 wfw wellness.com um and then all my social media is Ashley Wolfie also with two o's like how my last name is spell so w Ashley ash l y w l f i e like Instagram Tik Tok all the things all the good stuff awesome awesome we'll put the links um underneath below it's also helpful for those listening maybe driving that they can have access yeah awesome well thank you so much um is there any any final thoughts any thing that you want to leave people talking with yeah I mean the I feel like like the thing that just keeps coming up is like just like let yourself like dream and create your life like pick the one thing that feels feel good to you right now like that's how you build the momentum like you don't have to like build these like huge manifestation things but if you're just like starting out like especially with inner child work just like pick the one thing like what do you want and like ask yourself these questions maybe you go back in the podcast and listen to that little portion of of our little energetic bubble where we can hear ourselves too um at any time it's always like one of my favorite things to do yeah that's beautiful yeah awesome love it thank you guys so much this has just been so fun and enjoying the conversation so much YY thank you thanks for joining the all podcast to find out more you can find us online at academyof logic and light.org or on Facebook YouTube Instagram and Tik Tok at Academy of logic and light if you live in the Salt Lake Valley we'd love to see you at one of our upcoming events and don't forget to support our growth by joining our patreon until next next time lead with logic and Light