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welcome to the all podcast we're the Academy of logic and light I'm Megan I'm cat I'm Julie we are an ethical Community Education platform that provides a safe space for people to practice their spirituality without indoctrination thanks for coming back for the all podcast we're so excited to have another guest here with us today and um we've got Lindy with us so Lindy would you like to introduce yourself tell us a little bit about your background and who you are yeah thanks so much for having me I'm so excited to be here um I I guess kind of the best way to explain me is it feels kind of enemies to lovers story but I'm I was ening to lover so definitely grew up in Utah with religious trauma um Family trauma all that you know spicy stuff and um was able to just like slowly navigate my way back to myself and and tap back into my own authenticity so I love that I one of my favorite things is like finding our own paths and they're all so unique but I'm so glad that yours LED you here and we get to have you on and loving the Snorlax by the way thank I'm a I have to have little comfy things everywhere Love My Little Treasures I love that um how did you get into human design yes human design was actually something kind of later in my like spiritual journey but it's um I guess yeah should I just kind of go into my little spiritual journey and how I got there yeah tell us everything yeah awesome yeah so like I said grew up religious we weren't like super strict um I was in a pretty lap family uh to the point that actually when I went on a mission all my friends are like wait you're Mormon like they like I was not a good not a good morning um and anyways um when I came back from a mission it felt like the rug had just been pulled out from under me it felt like I went from this like spiritual High to like just total confusion and like um it felt like God had abandoned me like I just didn't know what to do um I've always struggled with like have major ADHD us have like major depression anxiety all that and struggled with like suicidal igation like self harm all that heavy stuff and so coming back from a mission and just feeling like the lights were completely shut off like I felt like I hit rock bottom and it just finally got me to the point where like I had to take a step back I remember having a prayer with God specifically and saying hey look Bud like I'm at the end of my robe so I think I need to take a step back otherwise I'm going to be seeing you sooner than we anticipated and um I was like I don't know what this is going to look like but it it was like a breakup with God kind of Prayer was interesting um and I just like gave myself space to not have to decide or figure it out but just like let myself and in that being it allowed like I think all these like concerns I had all these doubts I had all these things that had always been like felt like conflictions within my soul finally raised up and I could actually confront it and like deal with it and I realized like man the church was not for me like no no shame to those who like want to be a part of it but it was not for me family like and um just that time to allow myself to like it was really beautiful but then it left kind of this void like if you're used to some kind of spirituality or comfort and then now suddenly you're just living in a world where you're just on this floating Rock in space it's kind of jarring to say the least a little like offputting and um but I was so scared to like ReDiscover spirituality because of you know the past traumas and stuff and I was so scared of locking myself back up into a box and yeah I think just like slowly with time I ended up getting married and you know wish him the best but that also wasn't it and I like finally kind of reached this head where I'm like hey I feel like I need to love myself and in order to do that a I need to get a divorce B I need to quit my job and c I need to just like dive back into the spirituality of me whatever that is like I need to let go of all these rules all these conditions and just like give myself a chance to just like explore whatever that needs to be and so I did I got a divorce I quit my high paying job to work at a freaking game shop which I still work there in love yeah I like it's the happiest I've ever been in my life because I just finally like chose me even though I didn't know what I was doing other than just following this like gut feeling that kind of tug you know yeah um and then after the divorce we sold our house and so I had some extra funds and one of my best friends reached out to me and she's like hey um my mentor I don't know if you guys have heard of Liz Hayes she's like inner child Guru the syncup method super awesome highly recommend but she was doing this like retreat in Greece and my friend's like we got to go and I was like I actually have the money yeah let's do it and um we went there and like that was my first I like to call them shifts when like you just feel your like you just align it's like you shift into a newer reality of yourself you just shift into like this newer understanding um and on that Retreat I had my whatever that should live Eat Pray Love I haven't seen it one of those moments and like she did um an inner child session with me and for the first time in my life I had someone actually like thank my inner child and thank this past me who had picked up all these conditions and all these trigger responses and Trauma responses as a way to stay safe and instead of like shaming it or judging it she just thinked it and said you know you did the best with what you knew at the time you could to stay safe and to feel loved and feel okay and it was like the most beautiful like experience of like wow I can move past this now because I actually was able to see and embrace this part of me um anyways and so you know obviously thank you but this is no longer working so now we got to try something else kind of movement um and then that yeah I think that just really was the beginning of me diving deep into like spirituality and just you know saying am I okay to swear okay I C A lot but yeah just kind of like it allowed me to be like hey [ __ ] the rules we're going to play and just like Tre it like we're a little scientist experimenting with stuff and like um and so then I just like couldn't I couldn't get my hands on enough things like I was just devouring anything I could on spirituality got into like w for a little bit got into witchcraft for a little bit got into um like meditation all like everything um and then that's how I ended up discovering human design which absolutely mindblowing I don't know if you guys do you guys know much about human design yeah I know a little bit Yeah tell us everything yeah we got the more out of the way um so human design is it's this beautiful modality I believe that was created in I want to say I just looked this up and I already forgot sometime between the 7 or the '90s but it's essentially this guy like he was just going on a walk with his dog and like came into his house and all of a sudden he just started like sweating profusely like was kind of having visions or whatever and like just had to like run into his office and just start writing everything down like full on download of information um and it's this like modality that includes like astrology it includes the inyang theory it includes like um the chakra system it just takes all these beautiful different systems and like creates your human design right um and like regardless of I I always like to tell people cuz I always like to be little healthy bit skeptical like for people who are concerned like how do you know that's real or whatever um it doesn't matter if it helps you live your life better and helps you like fall more in love with yourself and like chase your dreams like why does it matter and so I definitely like put it to the test and it's just been incredible it I've never had something astrology got really close to that and I'm still a huge fan of astrology but human design took it that step deeper of so authentically showing you to you and such a fun celebratory way and a way that says look I know the world has told you you have to live this this this and this way you're going to push all that aside and tap back into that feeling you've always known of who you are and you're going to celebrate it and you're going to accept it and you're going to lean into it and you're going to watch this magic just unfolds around you because of it and like everyone like that happened for me and everyone I've done readings for it it's just so fun to watch them go from struggling to thriving to go from like self-hatred to Absolute like self- love and acceptance and celebration yeah that's beautiful yeah I love that I love that philosophy that you said of like if it helps you fall more in love with yourself like that's that's what we're here for I was just going to ask like how long have you been studying it or like playing around with it yeah yeah um so I did I did this really cool course for a year um that like taught us a ton of different healing modalities um and each month was like a different one and so we had a month for like human design and as soon as we took that I just like extra Dove deep into it CU I'm like oh this is this is good stuff um so like yeah probably for a couple years now so I'm still fairly new to it but I just I'm obsessed with doing readings for people because like I said it's so fun to watch it's just fun to celebr each other and like it's really fun when you're like telling someone you know certain stuff about them in their chart and they're like I've always felt that way or like you know I've always wanted to do that but I just felt like the world told me I wasn't supposed to and like I one of the things in your um in your human design is Your Life theme which is kind of like your purpose for why you're here and mine is to put people above rules and laws which like makes so much sense to me because like it literally like is very much when you do your human design reading it's this very inspiring like [ __ ] the rules you make the rules this is your life this is your experience and like you could enjoy it you could have fun and so yeah yeah so cool I love that you started with inner child like what a great like bursting off point yeah yeah I think um someone wants to explain to me kind of you can almost VI the inner child as like the ego and then like your inner being as like your higher Consciousness and so they're both this like beautiful part right your inner child's this Physical Realm of you here um and so it's still like yeah I love I also love inner child work it's another thing I do that I'm very passionate about it's just embracing this like physical you now not just like past traumas you or just past little you but like the you now that still likes to have fun and do things and enjoy this world around us so yeah that's beautiful and like nurturing it too in like a way right like in a ways like at least that was part of my journey like nurturing myself in ways that I felt like I probably needed as a child but I can do now like little things yeah and it like makes a huge difference like you don't even realize until like I mean there's definitely a lot of grief with it I feel like when you realize like man this would have been great if I had this as a child but like it's still so beautiful to start giving that to yourself now and then especially once you start creating like a community and you can start like soothing each others and their children and just soothing each other and like almost reparenting I love that yeah so I don't know very much all about human design aside from like the basics can you talk a little bit about like the different archetypes is that what they're called yeah so there's um it goes into a lot of totally different depths one you're probably thinking of is um like the different energy types there's five main types okay yeah um and then even within then you have like different personality types or like I said like your like them so it's a really fun breakdown but the biggest one is energy types um the five of them are you've got your generators um your generators are like they listen to their sacral they're just lit up by life that gives them like NeverEnding energy they're go go go um then you've got your um manifestors and your manifestors are the they just do what they want they just go and they do it um and then you've got your projectors and projectors are here to kind of help lead and they're like usually our leaders and our examples um fun thing about projectors is they need a ton of rest like and so that's really fun when you do a projectors reading and you're like hey you're okay to work from bed like you're okay that you're efficient and you need 3 days off like that's fine like um and then there's the manifesting generator which is what I am which is a fun mixture the manifestor and the generator um and then finally there's a reflector and the reflector only makes up like I want to say like 3% of the popul ation if that um and the reflectors are really cool cuz they're here to obviously reflect back to us our ourselves so interesting and that goes off of your birthday is that yeah so the birthday and the time you're born it's still very similar I'm are you guys familiar with like neutrinos and oh fun I love science I love learning about the why so apparently like with astrology the whole kind of science behind astrology and it goes hand inand with human design it's the time you were born the place you were born and the date you were born um so apparently planets and like stars project these like atoms I want that might be the wrong term called neutrinos and they're like we're getting bombarded with like trillions of them every day um and so it makes and like I think it was in the 90s they were able to determine that the um neutrinos actually do carry information and so like it kind of makes sense that like dependent on when you're born and all a sudden like you come out and you're blasted with all these neutrinos depending on where the planets are lined up like that's why we see such Eerie like coincidences with like astrology or signs and stuff like that um and then same with like as we continue to go into like you know a Mercury and retrograde or whatever like different stuff moving forward we're still getting bombarded with those neutrinos so obviously it's going to affect like our frequency our lives like I don't anyways sorry but just cool fun stuff yeah so interesting I've never heard that before somehow yeah I highly recommend looking into it so fun so yeah that human design is very I'd say most like astrology more than anything else and then it's just combining all these other really cool um healing modalities into it to get this like beautiful reading I love that for me with astrology it's kind of like a atlas of like okay here's where I my Tendencies probably lie I'm a cancer son so I can be super homebody nurturing I can be pretty manipulative when I want to be um so like for me it's just kind of like here's a broad stroke of like traits that you are most likely to have so be mindful of that um is that similar with human design I mean I'm from what you've said like it's a lot more detailed than that but do you find it like super beneficial to use to like make decisions in your life or is it more just like okay yeah this is a common thing that I'm likely to have happen or something like that yeah great question um absolutely it like has completely changed the way I lived my life so one really interesting thing um I got diagnosed with ADHD at a very young age um and like for anyone who's neur Divergent and aware of what it's like growing up with that you get a lot of pressure of like you have to mask a certain way you have to act a certain way you get told the way you function is just wrong and um so I'd always kind of grown up with this idea of like my quirks of my ADHD being like these negative things um and upon during my human design reading a manifesting generator almost like like word for word is someone with ADHD it feels like like I was like oh my gosh and it completely reframed the way I viewed how I functioned to this like negative to like no this this is how I was designed to function this is how I was meant to function and it completely changed the way I treat myself it completely changed the way I set boundaries and like U moved forward in the world because I'm like no this is no longer wrong I am intentional and this is how he meant to function um and then with your designs it does give you like so for example um I I'm a manifesting generator where my response system is through my Sac R and so that means I'm supposed to trust a gut feeling I'm supposed to trust a yes or no like before my head but then my on the other hand they're um they're supposed to listen to their head or I have another friend who they're supposed to listen to their ego which is a really fun one because that one's just you do what you want essentially which is I'm sure nice um but yeah and so like you're able to find um they they give you like literally what's called your strategy of how you should um like respond to things which is really cool and so like for me again it's that simple yes or no gut feeling and so there's even different ways like I don't know if you guys are familiar with muscle testing but um where you could like I love doing it I just do the body lean where it's like lean forward for yes lean back for no if I'm too stuck in my head about something it it really brings in you'll notice a lot of similarities with your astrology readings into it but I feel like it makes it more applicable to actually you living your life if that makes sense in ways that you can respond and go after things it even goes into like your manifestation style it goes into like your digestion both how you process information and actual physical food um and so just really has this beautiful depth of like how you can start applying it and like it just feels it's so fun like the more you keep playing with it and the more you keep following what your chart says like it just feels more and more aligned it's it's a really cool experience cool that's so interesting I just looked I'm a generator and which is funny because that's the only thing I know about human design was that I make all my decisions through my gut oh nice y but I thought that's like what everybody did depending on how you wired yep yeah that's so interesting I'm really curious about the ego one I know right yeah the ego one I I think could be fun but I could also see where it could be kind of Pokey to some people cuz I'm a projector but I know that like the way I make decisions is through like talking with people the sounding board and so it's just like it's so different than that like gut feeling it's like no I have to say this out loud before I can make the decision so a really fun thing about projectors and I'm curious if you feel this way um so projector strategy is to be invited like you're not meant to initiate you're meant to have someone invite you to do something um and so your strategy is just to respond to those invites instead of like initiating it if that makes sense that's so funny the first like when me Megan and I first started working together she put me in the kitchen she was like all I need for you to tell me is that yes I need to get started on these projects give me permission and I will go she's like invite me to do this I want to do it that's a typical projector that's awesome yeah I love projectors and she went yeah and yeah as soon as you invite them they're they're good they're and they're efficient projectors are super efficient but you need a lot of rest so be nice to yourself yourself so much rest yeah yeah I I try it's you know the struggle every day yeah do you know what you are I think I'm a generator oh fun and I'm a generator yeah yeah I think I had somebody a while ago it was like at a one of those like psychic medium fair whatever where they have like a bunch of different vendors come so it was like a really quick like 10minute chat that I had with the um person that was doing human design and I didn't have like a notebook to write anything down so I was just trying to like remember everything yeah I think was something in there like did you say that generators like lean into their sacral yes yeah yeah because I remember a big conversation about like you need to make sure that your gut health is like up because you need to like be able to really trust your gut instincts and yeah that sacral energy well and the cool thing about generators and manifesting generators is that because so essentially the sacral is like our life force right in Chakra system right that's where like the the womb life is created like it's this really sacred place and so we kind of have this really cool ability where we have like unlimited energy essentially but the problem is is especially for generators you guys can end up accidentally overfilling your plate and making too many commitments instead of listening to your gut and setting clear boundaries of no no I'm going to save my energy for only the things that light me up for only the things that excite me um and that actually they're finding a lot of like I I'm super into like metaphysical Health with physical health and it's interesting when you look into that like a lot of times like anytime I start getting gut problems is when I'm overextending myself I'm not actually listening my sacral and I'm doing things even if I don't want to do them but the sacral is a really fun one because it really comes down to like do what Li to up what excites you what sounds fun to you and like who doesn't want to live that way right that's so funny I was like I feel attacked know I was literally like God damn it I know it's like on paper you're like yeah that makes sense I'll just say say no to the things I don't want to do and then you're actually presented with the opportunity say no and you're like oh this is so scary I don't want to I'll just do it that's funny where is the energy center for the projector so projector I'd have to look into it so it's really cool I'd be happy to do your guys' reading sometime too like feel free to reach love that because I love I love it um yeah so essentially how the human design works I should have like had a little picture to show but it's like you see this like little body graph and um has centers similar again to looking like the chakras um and you can have those centers either defined or undefined um and so depending what centes you have defined or undefined determine what energy type you are um I believe projectors don't have their sake roles defined and I think that's why when you have an undefined sa R that's why you need a lot of rest which there's nothing wrong with that rest is awesome um but like you don't have that Life Source you can just keep automatically tapping into um and so I can't remember I think no I'd be talking out of my ass if I said that I don't remember exactly which ones were to find for a projector unfortunately but I can look at us what are so it's and then manifestor do you know off the top of your head I'm not to like test you I'm just so curious um so manifestor also doesn't have so the only ones with the defined s RS are the manifesting generators and the generators um a manifestor also doesn't have I don't or maybe they might actually have the defined s r it's just not connected to their throat so as a manifesting generator and as a generator it's our throat which is very like I don't know it just feels very like we're going we're doing we you know what I mean um whereas I think for manifestors there's like a disconnect somewhere there but um manifestors are really their strategy is to inform because they're not meant to ask for permission they're meant to just go like they're doers they don't want to ask they don't want to wait around they're already gone like they just want to go go go um and but their strategy is to inform is because they're going to benefit more when they can keep their people in the loop like it's not that they're asking for permission it's not saying that they can stop them but they're just letting them know like hey this is what I want to do and this is what I'm doing and it's yeah manifestors are fun they can um manifestors and projectors have I like to call Pokey auras um not that it's negative at all but they kind of protrude they get in there like they immediately like they're in there they're because you're poking for that invite right you're poking for that uh if you're proor and then if you're a manifestor you're just out there you're pushing out you're doing whatever um and then for generators and manifesting generators we have an enveloping or so we like bring people into us like they want to come to us um and then reflectors being the most unique ones they don't have any defined centers so it's all open um I've met a couple reflectors and they're incredible people um but like it is very it's probably the most lifechanging for reflectors to find out their reflector because it completely shifts everything on how they're supposed to be living ramble and ramble I love it that's what we're here for yeah this is your platform I love the way that you have been presenting this because I agree like when I found out the projectors because I've kind of known my astrology for a while and I've always studied that and it's taught me a lot about myself but I feel like a lot of that is more so like internal processes that are happening yeah you know and like things that are out of my control where when I started kind of looking at the human design to me it felt like it was giving me advice of like how to make all of those different energies that add to like who I am but how to make them kind of fit and work for me best in our current like Civilization you know it feels more modern for sure yeah and so like when I learned out that I had to like wait for an invitation then instead of getting like upset that nobody's inviting me places I found myself more so putting myself in scenarios that are like you know someone's like hey I have this sign up sheet and I'm like well I'm going to sign up on the sheet like that's an invitation or at least like it gets me one step closer to the invitation and so I I started putting myself in scenarios where people would be like oh would you like to come and participate in this which is exactly what Julie did and she's like Hey we're having a potluck you should come and I was like okay like how many people and she was like six and I was like oh I was expecting more people like I thought this was a a bigger party but I'm happy to be one of the six things like that that it's I learned how to kind of put myself out there in a way that I was getting the opportunities that I was looking for and so I I love that you've been bringing that up because I've definitely noticed it in my life that it was like oh I can create them for myself even though I'm waiting for someone else to invite me like I'll put myself in the scenario I can like create an invitation for them to invite me yeah yeah I'm like oh well I have no plans that day nud nud love that it's it's just so fun I I'm I love people I just I'm obsessed with people I'm obsessed with what makes us so unique and what you know we're so individualistic and yet we're also one and we're also and I think human design just does such a good job at it's all just a complete celebration and acceptance of like this is how you're meant to function without any like obviously we're not perfect but like we're not meant to be we're meant to be these beautiful like messy complicated fun crazy beings and so it does it in a way that's just so deconditioning of this Society we've grown up of this patriarchy we've grown in of late stage capitalism of all of it right Christian nationalism you name it and it just like peels it back for a second and you get it just like breathe and be like this is me and this is okay and like more than okay this is badass and this is really fun it's like it very like I'm glad we talked about inner child work a little bit because it very like your inner child is there when you do it because your inner child s they're like yeah yeah this is how we felt this whole time and you just forgot and that's okay cuz I'm back and like it's just so exciting and fun and like um I've had probably one of the most touching moments I've had I won't out who they are but I have someone in my life who close to being a textbook narcissist we'll say and um just really hard to work with and um I've never received any kind of like acknowledgement or apologies from them obviously because anyone who's fam with narcissism that's like never going to happen um and for some reason I just felt very called to do their human design reading and it was really hard because again it's such a beautiful celebratory thing and so to read to this person who's like hurt me so much and tell them like hey you're so deserving of love and you're fantastic and here are your cool traits and like d d on the inside I'm so like ah but you hurt me so bad um but it was really cool because after we got through it they we were able to have this beautiful moment where for the the first time in their life they were able to acknowledge like hey I'm really sorry for how I've acted I'm really I know I wasn't perfect I know I now know I was trying my best but I recognized my best still wasn't enough and I'm sorry that that hurt you and like just insane right like and it makes sense that of course for them to be able to get to that place they needed to love themselves first like everything always comes back to that self-love and self-acceptance like every every everything I can't think of a single thing that doesn't stem from this true total like rebellious Act of self-love and devotion and it just ripples out into every corner of your life and it was so cool to see firsthand then be able to for the first time what felt like probably ever for them to finally be like hey maybe I am okay and as soon as they were able to access that they're able to go and I'm so sorry I hurt you which is like incredible so wow that's powerful I love that yeah and how rare I know yeah they still test my patients but they're trying it's been really cool to see the girls wow that's really cool how do you ever do anything about like using human design to see how like two people would relate to each other not so much like compatibility but just like how they work together you know yes so um it's something I'm still new at but I've been loving playing with so essentially you have all your centers right like you have your head Center throat Center sacral center right defined undefined and then from them you have these channels connecting each other right so you have one going from your throat to your sacral one going from your head to your throat right and if you only have like let's say you had the head undefined but the throat is defined you'd have what's called a hanging gate where it's like half defin that channel right is only halfway colored because this one's undefined so it's not a complete Channel and when you meet with someone since everything's all energetic so right everything's all frequencies they feel that if they had a defined head suddenly when you're with that person you guys have that channel together and the channels of course represent their own deep stuff right like the um there's a Channel of initiation the channel of abundance the channel of like there's so many fun things and so like it's really fun to do reading whether it's with your partner whether it's with friends whether it's with um I think it's really cool we're starting to see a lot more companies to start doing it with like their co-workers and stuff and you can start seeing how like you can complete certain people's channels and like a channel you usually don't have access to on your own when you're with the right person you now have the energy for it which is so cool and so fun um so yeah I hope that answered your question but yeah it's really cool to see how much like that energy or even just that whole Center itself if you don't have a defined head and you're with someone who does have a defined head that's going to create a totally different energetic situation for you um a great example of that do do any of you guys know if you have a defined throat Center I do if you remember you do okay have you noticed that like some people can just gab and gab and gab at you like almost like word vomit at you yeah so a lot of times someone with an undefined throat Center when they're in your presence they're like oh my God I can talk like I'm okay to speak my truth like I'm safe to you know what I mean yeah and so it's really fun to kind of see like you can provide that for other people who maybe don't feel as comfort you know what I mean it's just you start picking up on these little things and it's kind of do boards it should be it would be cool to do the whole boards uh human design to see where we pick up where the others leave off yeah we could absolutely I'm serious those kind of time I'd love to do your guys' reading so yeah that would be amazing cool so if it's defined it would be in color right yes it'd be colored in correct and the cool thing is even if it's undefined it still has meaning to that too so both the defined and undefined still has meaning so an undefined heart would mean XYZ while a defined heart would mean whatever so just because it's undefined doesn't mean it doesn't have meaning it just means it's just another level for you to learn about yourself and that makes sense though my throat chakra has always like been a a thing for me finding my voice throughout my life so oh gotcha gotcha yeah so what does all the numbers mean so the numbers those are what representing the gates um and then once those two get like so um if a number is colored in that means you have that gate and you'll notice that it kind of colors in like half I wish I had for the listeners a picture but they can they yeah you'll see oh perfect yes awesome so when she was saying numbers when you do a full reading um like for example let's go back to the throat um Center there'll be numbers written all around the edges of the throat Center so like each of these lines right yes so those lines are Channel and then um on a reading they'll you'll see numbers inside the throat Center um to represent the gate and if they're colored that means you have that gate and if they're not colored you don't um and then if you have one colored and then it's not the opposite gate that it's supposed to be connected to isn't that's where you get that hanging gate we were just talking about and if the opposite gate in the I think that's the I can't read like SPL yeah but um if they're both connected then that's when you get that channel and obviously channel has its own meaning and it just goes deeper and deeper there's still so much I'm learning yeah amazing yeah say circling back to your question of like compatibility and stuff too um one of the things your human design reading does for you is um everyone has two numbers that you get assigned um so I'm a 35 for example it's like kind of your personality um I view it kind of similar to like your sun and moon So like um my three is what everyone else sees in me and then my five is how I see myself kind of thing um and so there's they like have different like a whole list of like hey it's usually that these you know personality traits are really good with these type of people especially for romance they'll be like hey you'll find that you really Vibe with these people like obviously again I hate rules so like [ __ ] them but if that you know it feels right is like a fun little guidance great but if not you know Screw the rules and make a mess and have fun but I like that philosophy yeah I I know that I really liked human design and you mentioned the two numbers you're assigned what are those called again um it's like your a personality I think is um sometimes human design will kind of depending on what system you're using will have different wording for it but it's all the same general idea I like to call it your personality um so again the first number is going to be how others see you and then the second number is going to be how you see yourself and then those two numbers coming together um so your first number is always I believe going to be like 1 through six and then same with through second numbers and that's going to have different meanings those reading yeah your energy type right is probably your biggest thing and then I love the personality the numbers ones and then I I love Love A Life theme because that's just fun makes everyone I'm so excited because we have you set up to help us with our Circle in Jude right yes Y and it's on human design yay it would be cool if we could do your readings before then because then we could use you guys as an example during it if that if that timing works out that'd be cool would be amazing that would be so fun do you have um anything kind of specific in for that class or like is it just going to be like an educational class or are people going to be able to kind of like bring their charts and then discussion will kind of be around what everybody in the class has have you already thought anything out or um it definitely was no that's a great question um it definitely was like I thinking kind of educational but I I love the idea of if people want to show up with their charts already printed we can use them as because I think the best way to learn is through examples and like obviously it's so fun to hear be like what about me like what does this mean about me like and so I think that'd be really fun if people are comfortable bringing um their info then we could abely use them as examples through it and just discuss it all together I think that'd be way fun definitely like open conversation kind of vibe was my hope but yes yeah perfect yeah that's that's my favorite like because I mean the whole reason we have our in-person events is to like really Foster the community and like create that so I think that style of teaching for them is perfect because then it you know leaves room for people to be as involved as they want to but yeah I love that yeah I love it too I'm so excited that you're gon to be helping us with that and it's gonna be so fun to yeah I'm really excited and that's June 19th um can you tell us um where people can find you yeah um I am on Instagram oh my friends right here I believe it's just Lind l i n dfler l a l e r on Insta I also have a Tik Tok under that name I'm very bad at being on it but yeah um if anyone's ever interested in like I said I do human design readings um another thing I'm really passionate about is I do I don't know if you guys have heard of hypnotherapy um but I do inner child hypnotherapy and that's again created that enemies to lovers relationship Within Myself where I'm just very happy with who I am now sounds exciting yeah that's amazing yeah I love that so much cool and I'll put links to uh where people can find you down in the show notes and uh in the description so yay and also if anyone references this podcast I'd be happy to give them a discount so they can just reach out to me and I'll give them a little deal cool perfect wonderful well tella do you found her on the on the all podcast like your inner child work or human design and maybe ways that people could kind of find their modality I don't know it sounds like you went through a really cool process of discovering yourself and what you could do to help people because I really feel like we all have gifts they're just different and I don't know if you have any insight on how to find a good modality or how you found yours and anyway yeah no I love that question thank you um yeah I it really I at least my experience everyone I've met we all have this really dark part of us that's just unfortunately filled with a lot of self-doubt self-loathing and just this heaviness I feel like a lot of us are carrying or at least used to carry or you know whatever it may be um and I just I can relate so deeply because I I like when I say like enemies slovers like just constant self-loathing constant negative thoughts in my head constant nothing I did was enough um nothing I did would ever be enough um I just hated myself everything about it and it felt like there's just no escaping it and and the best advice I can give in regards to that friend I'm trying to find their way out of that pit and find what modality feels right to them is it really all just starts back to you and just giving yourself permission that the rules don't matter that other people's expectations do not matter and you just keep choosing back into yourself and keep choosing back into you and just keep trying and figuring out what feels right knowing that you're not stuck to anything that you're allowed to change that you're allowed to grow your needs and wants you might at One Moment Like This is the most true right thing I could ever do and then the next week it might be like oh why did I even do that like and that's okay like we are meant to change and evolve and grow um and just like keep it's a choice you have to consciously keep making um of choosing back to you um especially when you grow up used to having to watch everyone else around you and be mindful of like their emotions and try to people please them or um you know watch how you present yourself to like meet their expectations whatever it may be it's a conscious choice that you just have to keep practicing of like hey I'm going to take a deep breath I'm going to choose back into me and I'm going to follow what feels right I'm going to take the next little step whatever that looks like and so for some people that might be as big as okay I'm going to jump into yoga and figure that out or oh I want to get into Witchcraft and that's great but for you it might be as simple as simply just saying I'm going to allow myself just a night where I cancel the plans I had I'm going to take a bath and I'm just going to cry and I'm just going to let that be enough and I'm going to let that be okay and I find as you keep following that kind of tug of just those little micro moments of choosing back into yourself it naturally gradually evolves into these bigger moments and you don't even have to go chasing for it opportunities are just given to you of like like the grease thing right like my friend called me out of the blue like Hey we're going to go to Greece and it's going to change your life I'm like okay like you know I mean like you just all you have to do is just keep choosing right here right now you don't have to worry about the future you don't have to worry about the past pretend you're just born right now right today like what do you need right this second and just keep following those little moments and choosing back into yourself and then I feel like you're naturally guided to what you're needed and um for me like I I'm so curious if I'd been introduced to human design earlier if it would have like potentially offended me if it would have like I don't know just like gone over my head like I think I was introduced at it to it like at the right time because I just kept choosing into myself and my comfort level and what felt right and good to me and following just me yeah instead of any linear path or anything that like I feel like we're pressure to do I don't know if that answered your question yes that's perfect I love it so much that's such good advice I feel like finding that authentic self is I mean one of the hardest things that we have to do but once you've done it like the way that it starts to pull you towards opportunities that just are feeding it is so amazing yeah I really makes you feel like man the universe is on my side huh like always has been it's it's really incredible and I think too in that vein um just again for anyone who might feel like they're going through it it it really like I know they've probably heard it so many times it gets so much better because before you know it you go from what feels like every day is a bad day to okay now you had a good moment here or there to okay now it feels pretty 5050 and then next thing you know you're looking back and you're like man I haven't been sad in a hot minute or not even like not that sad it's bad but like you know what I mean like oh I haven't not been okay and hot minute and like before you know it it becomes your Norm to put yourself first it becomes your Norm to set these boundaries it becomes your Norm to like explore and try new things um and so just you just keep taking it one step at a time just keep choosing back into yourself and then it it seriously feels like you blink and all of a sudden you're like whoa we did it we made it yes yeah it's so hard I feel like when especially when things are hard like that moment you're so in it like you can't picture anything outside of it but then like once you get past that moment you're like oh that was this tiny little blip like who knew immediately puts it in perspective and you're like oh maybe it wasn't that big of a deal my bad trying to think if I have any more questions and I'm like I I just feel like so like my cup feels full after talking with you oh it's so sweet and my mind feels like blown like I'm so excited to like dive into this for myself I think like for me personally one of the best parts about being alive right now is the access that we have um with all of this type of stuff like you were just saying like if you it would have been introduced to you earlier would would you have been receptive or or not but like when we grow up that information just wasn't there so we didn't know whether like we didn't know one thing from the other and we just like trudged along with you know and so I love that it you know putting this information out there gives people the opportunity to say yeah I'm interested in that or say I'm not ready for that yet but for me like I think about it in the context of like because I have two kids two teenagers and I'm like Oh my God like I should do this for them like to know what they're they are at such an early age I feel like would probably give them such an advantage of oh yeah like oh you're not meant to fit into public school this makes sense because you're this or you you know anyway it's just blowing my mind I have like a million thoughts running sorry if I feel like I'm not like you know interact very much but like you're blowing my mind apart right now oh I love it no that's awesome and this is an excit there's so many books on human design and parenting like alone like it's really powerful tool to like hear about your kids and how they function because it makes it so much easier when you're like oh this is just how they're meant to function and like like you said like how incredible to give them that opportunity it set you engaged to say Hey you are intentional exactly as you are like there is nothing wrong with you there's a lot wrong with the world but there's nothing wrong with you and you're good to like pave your own path and set your own boundaries and create your own like just be you unapologetically and like I think with that idea too of just like obviously it was really nerve-wracking to kind of step into authenticity and step into this you it was I was just I I was convinced the world was going to burn around me right that I was going to be so rejected that I'd lose all my friends and family and the way that the world shifts with you like into so much like the more you're authentically yourself it allows the people around you to be more authentically them it's just this like beautiful ripple effect like I truly think like that's how we're going to heal the world is when we heal ourselves first and then you just watch how much it like literally hits every corner of your life and then that moves on to the next person and the next person and so that's I love that you brought up your kids cuz I think that's going to be absolutely incredible for them to just have such like confidence and celebration in who they are yeah I'm excited yay glad to meet you and have you and hear all of this yeah thank you this has been an absolute blast love this kind of stuff I bet is g to be a fun one um I know that there's like the environments right in human design oh yeah okay that's what that's what that like stuck out to me because I learned like what my husband's chart was and what my chart was and his is like his environment is caves and he's like such a hope body and I was like oh that makes sense and mine is mountains which is like you want to get out but not just like out like you want to get away from it and I was like oh and so it's so funny like how our you know just our where we want to be in like our happy places are so different from what others that it like really gave me Insight because I was like how can you just want to sit inside like how can you want to do that I just want to like go like let's run away let's pretend like civilization's gone or let's just go be in the mountains and he's like no I pay rent I well I pay my mortgage for a reason all of the things I like are here and I'm like that's fair I I love that you brought that up because it's so fun too I found um like it's so and not not saying necessarily that you were judging him by any means but I know like for me my my ex-husband and I were like Polar Opposites and I felt like it was really easy for me to be like H he like doesn't want to go out he doesn't want to do this and to me it was a negative in my head because that's just what it felt like I feel like human design where it allows you to kind of finally like Embrace and accept yourself where before you might have judged yourself for like wanting to run out into the wood somewhere right or like I was kind of like I felt a little judged that I always wanted to my environment's kitchens which means I love the hustle and bustle I love Community I love creating I love just like the feeling when you're in the kitchen making food with your family or friends and so but I always kind of felt judged where that's not what he wanted to do and so I felt judged when I that's what I wanted to do and so i' project that judgment back onto him and be like okay well I need to be right which means you need to be wrong because if you're wrong then or if you're right then I'm wrong and it just created this like never ending cycle and I found that like human design just lets you off the hook man like you're like oh it's all good I'm good and then in doing that it lets you let everyone else off the hook too you're like oh you're fine yeah you stay in I'm going to go to the mountains real quick I'll be back but like I'm GNA go have fun in Frolic and then we'll meet up later like it just like lets go of this pressure because like life is supposed to be fun my whole belief I personally believe we're Eternal beings for sure but we're Eternal beings having this Human Experience and so again even if this is it and we're not Eternal bearings like we're still having this experience like we're literally meant to just experience that's it like there's no right or wrong we're just here to experience it all and so with that like it's just not meant to be that serious meant to be fun we're meant to enjoy we're meant to have fun we're meant to like enjoy the differences within each other we're meant to have preferences and be like I love that from for you but not for me we're meant to be like you know I love you enough I want you my circle I'm going to love you from a distance like whatever it's supposed to be like we're just meant to have our preferences and enjoy it and yeah I yeah I feel like that's such a healthy outcome of learning to start embracing like who you are authentically because then you do understand like some people are just going to like everybody's just them and you can't necessarily change that and it's all about like setting the boundaries that are right for you with how they choose to be like you don't have to love everybody up close but like you could still appreciate who they are even if they're not somebody that you're going to like put into your like immediate circle yeah exactly I loved it oh okay will you remind us again like is it best for people to just like DM you on Instagram or yeah so I am in the process of setting setting up a calendly calendly calendar yeah that let stuff with people um which I do have that link in my Instagram bio but it's not finished yet so okay feel free to just DM me I'll be happy to set stuff up um I do offer um hypnotherapy sessions um those ones are a little cheaper just because they're only about like 45 minutes to an hour um and then I do human design readings and those are a little more expensive just because they're still totally affordable but like it's usually about like 2 hours cuz I want to get in it with yeah I want to go through all the details cool oh I love it and your what was your Instagram handle what more time just for yeah uh Lind l i n d do lefur l a l e r yay okay perfect well thank you so much for joining us this is wonderful I don't know I don't want to cut you off do you do you feel good do you have any other big eye opening if if it's not too weird I don't what time is it how are we doing on time no we're doing great on time I like awesome could we end with like maybe just a little quick inner child meditation oh my tap into that that's absolutely I'm gonna mute myself CA I've got background noise okay so let's go ahead and just anyone who is is able to go ahead and close your eyes and if you're in a place where you can't close your eyes just kind of relax your gaze allow your face to relax let's just take a few deep breaths in through our nose out through our mouth and I just want you to imagine as you're breathing in and out I want you to imagine your inner child they can appear before you in any age wearing whatever they want to be wearing and I just want you to see them some of them might be so excited and happy some of them might be a little scared quiet that's okay I want you to invite them to come sit on your lap and if it feels comfortable go ahead and wrap your arms around them just giving them a big Embrace I want you to go ahead and take this time to just tell them any anything love to tell them maybe anything you wish you would have heard when you were a child anything you feel they need to hear right now and when you're ready no rush I want you to again to just Embrace this little version of you this incredible child telling them how much you love them now I want you to imagine them looking up at you and saying how incredibly proud they are of you for the person you are today how incredibly grateful they are for everything you've been through to be exactly where you are right now the fact that you are the type of person your younger self would have felt safe with would have felt loved by just allow that sense of Pride and love settle into you I want you to imagine grabbing their cute little hands within yours and together you're going to say that we are always enough and never too much we are intentional exactly as we are love surrounds us and is within us we are doing just fine all is well and then when you're ready as you're just Brea breathing in I want you to imagine that beautiful little you as you're hugging and embracing them I want you to imagine them merging back into your body like a water returning back to the ocean because they are you and you are them we are always enough and never too much we are always love and we are intentional now we get to go on through the rest of our day the rest of our week tapped in to our cute little inner child maybe looking for opportunities to have more fun to give ourselves more joy more peace cuz we are deserving again no rush when you're ready just go ahead and take a few more deep breaths and feel free to open your eyes thank you that was great yeah thank you so much yeah yeah thanks guys yeah that was perfect perfect way to end it thank you so much Lindy yeah thank you guys it was such a pleasure meeting yall yeah I'm excited to see you meet you in person thanks for joining the all podcast to find out more you can find us online at academyof logic andl light.org or on Facebook YouTube Instagram and Tik 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